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Once upon a time; I once had a pet called Daisy. When Daisy died I too was distraught and people tried to comfort me and asked what daisy was? “A cat maybe?” or “a dog perhaps?” when I said no Daisy was a ‘daisy’ they thought I must be mad! I resolved then to protect daisies and other plants from the omnivore and vegetarian humans that play at being god with plants, changing their DNA creating huge mono cultures and turning them into monstrosities just so they can eat them. Don’t you realise that plants have souls and feelings. I thought we were making progress when some funny humans started to hug trees and fight for the rights of trees but sadly they stopped at trees and never bothered their backsides to hug a daisy. I am at present trying to set up a campaign amongst my plant friends to get them to stop producing Oxygen until humans and their plant munching cousins the herbivores stop their genocidal murdering and plant eating or turning them into books including holy ones. A friend tried to extend this to include insects and when I pointed out that insects were just as bad as humans and also spread disease they said that is only because they are misunderstood and don’t have souls so should be looked after on behalf of the great and glorious father tree in the sky, personally I think he is as mad as a non vegetable matter brush.

Hurray!!**!! So true.

You members in the Church need to be teaming up with/making more of a stand with the RSPCA, The British National Party and other political/animal rights campaigners to STOP halal meat being allowed in Britain and secretly being given to Christians all over this country, it's a cruel and barbaric practice that for a country of 'animal-lovers' that Britain is known as is completely at odds with it's traditions, culture and general common decency - that's why I vote BNP a they will uphold Christian values within our Christian country not anything that's 'alien' to them.

Thank you reverend Callender, what you said is exactly how I feel. I don't believe in an afterlife, but it seems quite incredible that the amazingness that are living creatures justs disappears when they die. The notion of a heaven is just silly, but if there is something that happens to our essence, then my dogs are clearly part of that. Something that individual and idiosyncratic will be part of whatever it is that exists afterwards.

I don't believe in god, but the earth is amazing and for all I know, the big bang is the work of some incredible creature, who am I say it isn't. If not, what was there before, what's outside it. Is it about another dimension? These questions are beyond me, but if my essence is going somewhere, then so are my dogs.

When I lost one of my dogs, I woke up at 4am and could hear him barking, I went into the living room and said goodbye and he barked a couple more times. I know that logically it was a just a dog barking in the street, but it certainly felt more than that. He was always upset when I cried and If he could he would come back to say goodbye. Unlike my other dog, she wouldn't come back to say goodbye, she was very judgemental!

George - sorry - we are not God's children - heaven is not a physical place and we are not reunited with our pets. You have bought the religious lie - which is a pity as seemingly you respect life,regardless of whether it is human - which is good. God,George is only presumed to exist because people cannot grasp how the universe came to be,and arrogantly assert that something superhuman must have done it. It could not have - theists presume a 1st cause and say God is that 1st cause - but God has no 1st cause either. This only happens if you think cause and effect are the way of the world - it is not at the sub-atomic physics level and after reading many books on the subject it is evident that the universe does not need a 1st cause - let alone a superhuman one.

As someone mentioned in another strand - there is such a thing as the Flying Spaghetti Monster - or rather - there is NO such thing as the FSM - but it is intended to mock the notion of God.

Life may seem to be better if we think it is like David Niven in "A matter of life and death",but the truth is IT ISN'T.