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Hard to say what Mohammed and Aftab should do. I make a point of speaking to my neighbours, and people see regularly in the street, so that if something happens have increased the chances of them phoning the Police or an ambulance if I needed it. If I saw Mohammed or Aftab in trouble I would try to help them because they might be around to help me on another occasion.

This makes me feel frustrated and frustrated.

Firstly, nothing at all, can excuse/justify the incident in Norwary, nothing. It is utterly, and totally wrong. I am frustrated because there is a lesson to be learnt that always get overlooked or swept away as rubbish, but it isn't. Many, many people like me believe that you can mix ethnicity but you can't mix culture. We are not extremists, nor anything remotely similar. We wish only to live in democratic, moral and law abiding society. But like any groups, probably every group, there is always the possibility of those whpo take that view further. There are those people who are very proud of what they see as their History, tradditions and Cultures, it is for them 'who they are, their National Identity' and in many western democratic countries the Liberal governments strives to impose multi-culturism is seen as undemocratic. Something that was not in a manifesto and then once in power things promised are not delivered and things not promised are. Most people can cope with that, for me its just a frustration, nothing more, but for others, it will drive them either underground, into themelves or more alrmingly into the right wing groups.I listen to people, they feel on sensitive issues they have no voice, if they talk out on issues such as Immigration or Multi-culturalism, the PC Police will roll up at the door and cart them off somewhere for expressing maybe an anti view. My point, sorry for being long winded, is engage with all, evn if they are expressing views you dont like, successive Governments have shut them out of the debate. That way, we keep them on the surface and one day, maybe, we just get that trip wire that might stop another such incident.

It reinforced what I already believed.

EDL should be banned... they have already verbally abused me aswell and many more victims....

This makes me feel sad and sad.

...I feel sad because we live on an amazing planet that happens, (at least here in Britain!), to expend a truly inordinate amount of its capital on ˜education'. Alas we still have people that would rather (i) abuse another human through ignorance, and (ii) believe in a ˜Sky Fairy'.
Oh that we can be stronger than this pettiness and comprehend the voice of rationality?
However, any Humanist cannot help but surely warm to Mohammed and Aftab's desire to challenge the apathy of complicit aggression, (though, without doubt, for very different reasons than mine!). For that reason Mohammed & Aftab are truly more welcome in my house than most of whom now ˜make up' Modern Britain.

This makes me feel angry and angry.

I am angry because the young people were on that island debating a pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel agenda. Anti-Semitism is rife and growing in Norway, and the Jewish population are terrified. Have they forgotten WW2 and Quisling so soon? Now,maybe, the 'good' Christians of Norway know what it feels like to be frightened in your own country.

Ironically these two men will expect women to cover themselves and use other avoidance tactics to prevent physical attacks. Something they are not prepared to countenance for themselves. Walking into an EDL march could be considered provocative? Immodest? Foolhardy?

What could they do more? Stop having double-standards is my answer.